tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post1685748809158986339..comments2023-03-31T00:11:45.474-04:00Comments on THE STATE OF MY STATE: GUN FEVER ON THE KANAWHA (Pub Date 3/23/2013)Sean O'Learyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01287734264328253814noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-3032908141321320832013-04-07T10:55:14.839-04:002013-04-07T10:55:14.839-04:00Neither the 9th or 10th amendment changes the prin...Neither the 9th or 10th amendment changes the principle of judicial review and the power of the Supreme Court and not the states to determine what is and what is not constitutional. Sean O'Learyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01287734264328253814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-45876405035041587402013-04-06T09:56:32.557-04:002013-04-06T09:56:32.557-04:00Neither the Civil War nor the 'current' un...Neither the Civil War nor the 'current' understanding the the Constitution removes the 9th or 10th Amendments, Sean. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-75580112343971339222013-03-31T23:06:36.295-04:002013-03-31T23:06:36.295-04:00Terry,
Thank you for the links to Publius Huldah, ...Terry,<br />Thank you for the links to Publius Huldah, however I'll stand with the accepted understanding of the Constitution and the outcome of the Civil War, which put an end to the debate about states' ability to secede and nullify federal laws.Sean O'Learyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01287734264328253814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-25746805219622798292013-03-31T13:23:27.551-04:002013-03-31T13:23:27.551-04:00http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=32sOB8XpMM4&sn...http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=32sOB8XpMM4&sns=emTerry Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-5410977382707090252013-03-31T13:07:10.144-04:002013-03-31T13:07:10.144-04:00Concerning HB2580, search YouTube for: Publius Hul...Concerning HB2580, search YouTube for: Publius Huldah Schools Tn AG on the Supremacy Clause<br /><br />This attorney speaks on Nullification, and what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote the Supremacy Clause into the Constitution.<br /><br />http://youtube.com/#/watch?v=32sOB8XpMM4Terry Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-33477572679649708962013-03-27T10:04:03.470-04:002013-03-27T10:04:03.470-04:00Thanks for you reply, Sean.
The attempt to justify...Thanks for you reply, Sean.<br />The attempt to justify a made up scenario of a 14 year old claiming self defense based on the fear that another 14 year old was going to steal his Mountain Dew is preposterous.<br />One would think that you could come up with a better example, (perhaps a real life example), seeing as how other States do indeed now have a 'Stand Your Ground' law on the books. <br /><br />Just last month, a Florida Task Force released a 44 page report showing that 'Stand Your Ground' laws are working in Florida.<br />The 19 member Task Force, which held meetings in 7 different Florida Cities, recommended that the 'Stand Your Ground' laws are working and should not be overturned. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-7251842218751428522013-03-27T07:45:31.705-04:002013-03-27T07:45:31.705-04:00The scenario that I described and others are affec...The scenario that I described and others are affected in two ways by Stand Your Ground laws, particularly the expanded version contained in the house bill. First, Stand Your Ground expands the circumstances in which justifiable homicide can be claimed, which should come as no surprise since that is the law's intention. This provision would apply to the scenario's taking of the Mountain Dew, a piece of moveable property. Second, the proposed bill, if it contains the provision noted in the Associated Press report, would also remove any requirement that the response to a perceived threat be proportional. This also would apply to the Mountain Dew scenario since most people I think would classify as excessive the taking someone else's life over a can of soda. <br /><br />At the moment I don't have time to address the statistical points you make, but will come back to them in the next couple of days. Thanks for your comments.Sean O'Learyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01287734264328253814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-84861861322651523682013-03-26T19:37:04.583-04:002013-03-26T19:37:04.583-04:00My point remains valid, Sean.
A 14 year old on his...My point remains valid, Sean.<br />A 14 year old on his parents property, regardless of a 'Stand Your Ground' law, could shoot another teenager WITHOUT first getting his parents permission.<br />Or, a 14 year old could use one of his Mother's carving knives to protect his 'Mountain Dew'.<br />My point is that neither scenario is effected by a 'Stand Your Ground' law one way or the other.<br /><br />In spite of the Chicken Little style scare tactics given by those who want a complete ban on firearms, the rate of gun murder is at its lowest point since at least 1981 at<br />3.6 per 100,000 people in 2010. The high point was 7 per 100,000 in 1993.<br />Federal data also shows that violent crimes committed with guns, including murders, aggravated assaults and robberies, have declined for three straight years.<br /><br />Those are facts, not a dreamed up scenario of a 14 year old protecting his Mountain Dew.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-83789753930679691042013-03-26T13:56:08.574-04:002013-03-26T13:56:08.574-04:00Actually, in WV minors of any age may possess fire...Actually, in WV minors of any age may possess firearms with the permission of a parent or guardian. There is no requirement that the parent or guardian be present. The only other restriction placed on minors who have parental permission to possess firearms is that they may not carry the firearms onto the property of others without receiving permission to do so from the owner of that property. The relevant excerpt from the state code reads as follows, "a minor may possess a firearm upon premises owned by said minor or his family or on the premises of another with the permission of his or her parent or guardian and in the case of property other than his or her own or that of his family, with the permission of the owner or lessee of such property." <br /><br />Given that most shootings happen in the homes of gun owners, where minors are allowed to possess firearms assuming that they have parental permission to do so, the scenario of the two fourteen year-olds described in the column is entirely plausible.Sean O'Learyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01287734264328253814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1656624371497588038.post-44081156400815200472013-03-25T11:03:13.216-04:002013-03-25T11:03:13.216-04:00Referencing Pogo and the Viet Nam war continues to...Referencing Pogo and the Viet Nam war continues to be a large part of the liberal position it seems. Even now 45 years out. <br />Yes, it may have a place in some American history class dealing with events of 5 decades ago, but using 'we have seen the enemy and he is us' when dealing with todays 2nd Amendment discussions fails miserably, I'm afraid. <br /><br />So does Mr. O'Leary's attempt to use a 14 year old shooting another over a Mountain Dew to criticize a 'Stand your Ground' law. <br />Apparently, Mr. O'Leary doesn't realize that a 14 year old carrying a weapon (concealed or openly) is ALREADY illegal and a 'Stand Your Ground' law would not change that fact. <br />To carry a firearm legally in West Virginia, (openly or concealed), one must be at least 18, or 21 for a concealed carry permit in most instances.<br />One would think that if such 'Stand Your Ground' laws were so detrimental to society as a whole that the facts would show that to be true. But they don't. <br />And that is where Mr. O'Leary's argument comes up short.<br /><br />In Florida, home to the most gun permits in the country, firearm violence has fallen to the lowest point on record. ON RECORD.<br />Florida's firearm violent crime rate has dropped 33 percent between 2007 and 2011, while the number of issued concealed weapons permits rose nearly 90 percent during that time.<br /><br />And even if one attempts to say that a connection between the lowering of violent crime and the issuing of more permits can't be proven, what CAN be proven is that the issuing of all those additional permits didn't cause an INCREASE in the rate of violent crime.<br />The statistics do show that to be the case. <br /><br />Generally speaking, I don't share Mr. O'Leary's political positions. <br />I do enjoy reading his articles though, and this is my first time in responding. <br /><br />Thanks for listening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com